卸下“爱丁堡学派”这张招牌吧!——巴里·巴恩斯访谈录

相对主义是自然主义推论下的必然产物，科学与相对主义并非是相互冲突的。坚决反对二元论观点的自然主义不容许在科学文化与其他文化间做出区分，要一以贯之地将科学或自然主义的方针运用于研究人类及其文化上，社会科学（主要是社会学或人类学领域）成功的研究也应该被运用于理解自然科学上。有限论可以被还原为权力与自我指涉问题，就对权力本质的认识而言，社会中权力的问题、认识论的问题、知识的问题，其实都是同样的问题。社会即是自我指涉的知识系统，知识与权力是一体的两面，几乎所有的权力都是以集体的方式存在的。在任何权力的授权系统中，都有个无法根除的问题，即欠缺联结与控制的问题，理解自我指涉的循环机制极具实际重要性。有限论正在被运用于政府管制机构的正式规定与指导方针、法律以及官僚行政等的研究，强纲领自然主义的研究路径及经典成果早已被运用于其他领域上了。中国科技与社会学界可以类比的方式将经典研究成果拓展到其他案例上，创造出有价值的研究。

Dropping the Brand of Edinburgh School! An Interview with Barry Barnes

Professor Barry Barnes is well known for his ground-breaking study on collective action, self-referring knowledge, and systems of power. This interview started from his naturalistic conunitment, insisting that science should be studied in the same t way as any other human activities. We then move onto the basic relation between knowledge and society. According to him, prob- lems to do with knowledge and those to do with power are in fact two sides of one coin. His work on agency, collective action, power or even finitism can all be understood as analyzing different forms of the same awareness, rather than as a change of sub- ject He encouraged scholars in East-Asia to combine the Western resources with their own ones, and advised them not to simply follow a ＂Programme＂ as it constrains their vision.